"Exploring the Psychology of Creativity" (click for the video.) Below are some quotes from a conversation between Marc Mayer, Director of The National Gallery of Canada, and Dr. Jordan Peterson, Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto. March 9, 2017. I liked the video; you might also. Peterson has a Jungian perspective, and he leaves room for the dignity and freedom of human beings.
Professor Peterson, University of Toronto Photo via BBC News Toronto |
Where artists live: "The artists like to be right out on the edge. That's the edge between chaos and order. They like to expand the domain of order out into chaos. They do that first by transforming perception."
Artist on the edge: "You can fall into the chaos at any time."
Artist as dream: "Artists have always been on the frontier of human understanding. The artist bears the same relationship to society that the dream bears to mental life."
More artist as dream: "The dream mediates between order and chaos. It starts to make chaos into order, so it's half chaos. That's why it's not comprehensible. And artists play exactly the same role in society."
Old and New Worlds: "The beauty that the Europeans have produced, it's infinitely valuable.... People go from all over the world on pilgrimage to Europe just to look at beautiful things. It nourishes their soul. They're priceless. Paris is priceless. Rome is priceless. And it's all beauty that drives it. It's phenomenally valuable! And Canada is just ugly as sin. Really. Really. We should be ashamed of ourselves."
Ugly as sin: "Hell is a place of drop ceilings and fluorescent lights."
What there is other than worldly success: "One of the things that pays off big for creative people is that they get to be creative. There's great aesthetic joy in that, and depth."
Jung and the arts: "The reason Jungian psychology works is because it works for creative people. It doesn't work at all for non-creative people. It just falls dead and flat for them. It isn't how they think."
The start of a great explanation of how publishing works according to an airport book shelf, and how winner takes all: "Half the money in the publishing business goes to Stephen King."
Openness as a personality trait for artists: "Creativity loads very high on openness."
The artist's gamble: "There's a high probability you will lose."
Teen telling parents about a desire to be an artist: "It's like discussing color with someone who is color blind."
Artists and society: "Artists and entrepreneurs are the same people."
On regimentation in schools: "They're factories. You don't produce creative people in factories. You produce factory workers. That's fine except there aren't any factory workers anymore, so we should probably stop doing it."
The pepper grain in a salt shaker: "Creative people are as rare as the winners of races."
Worldy success for artists: "You have to be more creative than everyone else, and good luck with that."