tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post8062730882425311203..comments2024-03-20T16:46:13.343-04:00Comments on Marly Youmans / The Palace at 2:00 a.m. / poems, stories, novels: Marja-Leena asks a questionMarly Youmanshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-87432413391627706472011-06-25T10:54:54.692-04:002011-06-25T10:54:54.692-04:00Robbi,
I think the issues are quite different wit...Robbi,<br /><br />I think the issues are quite different with poetry. It used to be hard to get a first book. Then it was hard to get first or second. Now it is just plain old hard.<br /><br />That's in part why I did "The House of Words" series, to point people like you in different directions, and I still think that some of those options might work for you. Talk to Nic; you might Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-25154671487974492812011-06-25T10:13:09.337-04:002011-06-25T10:13:09.337-04:00Paul,
It's not about money; it's about hav...Paul,<br />It's not about money; it's about having any sort of readership. I get so angry because I am not allowed to do a featured reading because I have not published a book. Why have I not published a book? After all, I have two quite presentable collections out there now, and half a book of autobiographical essays. It isn't me. I send things to journals, websites, contests. I try Robbi N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04881145195435485238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-34256693595206216742011-06-24T18:43:55.538-04:002011-06-24T18:43:55.538-04:00Paul,
Yes, I agree with you!
I certainly don'...Paul,<br /><br />Yes, I agree with you!<br /><br />I certainly don't think looks etc. make a difference to the art. They just make a difference to the marketer, the agent, and so on.<br /><br />I didn't bring up that little matter of luck because I've talked about it so recently in The House of Words. And luck is definitely in the mix.<br /><br />And you are right, art as "Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-1575936297170269252011-06-24T18:36:40.424-04:002011-06-24T18:36:40.424-04:00It's marja-leena herself!
Of course I feature...It's marja-leena herself!<br /><br />Of course I featured you--it was your question. I don't think anything is engraved in stone anywhere, and it's possible to make your way despite things that don't matter. It's just a lot harder to be featured, promoted, etc. in the "entertainment" culture. And looks (including thinness for women, of course) and an ability to speakmarly youmanshttp://www.thepalaceat2.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-19802309724257571682011-06-24T18:35:09.846-04:002011-06-24T18:35:09.846-04:00I think there is most certainly more room than is...I think there is most certainly more room than is generally allowed!<br />I cannot believe that all this (gender, looks) would make a difference when it comes to artistic endeavors.<br />One would find me very hard to convince of that.<br /><br />Naturally, if one writes something that's going to make headline news, then headline looks are probably an asset. Other than that, I do not see Paul Digbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-49440691603501022692011-06-24T17:55:25.998-04:002011-06-24T17:55:25.998-04:00Great reply, Marly, more than I expected from my i...Great reply, Marly, more than I expected from my impertinent question (and what a suprise that you've featured me here, thanks!). I was rather shocked by the article because I did not completely believe that the only published women writers are the young and beautiful - think of how many older and elderly successful ones are out there, though granted they made their mark before our present marja-leenahttp://www.marja-leena-rathje.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-78506999910431313532011-06-24T16:42:36.847-04:002011-06-24T16:42:36.847-04:00Dale,
Word verification has been entirely too apt...Dale,<br /><br />Word verification has been entirely too apt lately!<br /><br />I'm glad you like the post--and I like modesty, so I am glad you are modest, but I shall have to go and see more of your poems for myself! (Today I just got "Juan Luna's Revolver," so that's my evening reading, but no doubt I shall wander out in the web-world soon.)Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-73938200206639416732011-06-24T16:10:34.420-04:002011-06-24T16:10:34.420-04:00This is marvelous, Marly.
Wonderful advice, all t...This is marvelous, Marly.<br /><br />Wonderful advice, all the way through. I do think that's what we're building on the web. It's getting harder all the time, I think -- and God knows it was hard enough to start with -- to make a living by writing. But at the same time it's getting easier to get good, serious readers without Getting Published. <br /><br />This may not be a very Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-59241335873986383362011-06-24T14:34:49.832-04:002011-06-24T14:34:49.832-04:00Well, "golden lads and lasses must / Like chi...Well, "golden lads and lasses must / Like chimney sweepers, come to dust." We are all in the same human condition.<br /><br />And I believe that there is more room than generally allowed. A kinder system would permit more voices to be heard, pictures to be seen, and so on--and perhaps that is what we are building on the net.Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-4783048563618041022011-06-24T14:20:00.105-04:002011-06-24T14:20:00.105-04:00very good response, Marly.
If i truly believed th...very good response, Marly.<br /><br />If i truly believed that the young and beautiful were the only ones to succeed, i would have given up before i even started. There are so many examples that prove it is not the rule.zephyrhttp://www.thegarden.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-87881865229952010932011-06-24T11:11:59.365-04:002011-06-24T11:11:59.365-04:00Robbi,
Wow! I think you commented on the unfinish...Robbi,<br /><br />Wow! I think you commented on the unfinished version. I had originally "scheduled" it and then decided to change some things. So you posted before I thought it was up!<br /><br />"The hope we secretly cheris for ourselves": Ilike that.Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-13112616289213350212011-06-24T10:34:36.546-04:002011-06-24T10:34:36.546-04:00Marly,
Inspiring. In the face of such odds, it oft...Marly,<br />Inspiring. In the face of such odds, it often feels easier to creep away into the corner, but we owe it to the gift we have been given, the one we try to nurture, not to do that. I can understand why Marja-Leena doesn't want to believe this stuff. Part of getting older is being faced with it repeatedly, till we can't deny it anymore. But once we were all young and thought we Robbi N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04881145195435485238noreply@blogger.com