tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post4700800856204559806..comments2024-03-20T16:46:13.343-04:00Comments on Marly Youmans / The Palace at 2:00 a.m. / poems, stories, novels: A response to Dave Bonta on poetic formMarly Youmanshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-78597759563457370362011-08-10T22:56:55.484-04:002011-08-10T22:56:55.484-04:00Dave,
That is interesting. Great thing to read fo...Dave,<br /><br />That is interesting. Great thing to read for a boy! I did read a lot of poetry and fiction since my parents were academics (my mother a university librarian), and I owned some big compendiums for kids when I was little. By high school I was hanging out in the university library afternoon and reading a ton of poetry. Browse-and-devour.<br /><br />People say that a lot of MFA Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-44166892289218219262011-08-10T22:47:46.243-04:002011-08-10T22:47:46.243-04:00I read a lot of Dickinson between the ages of 8 an...I read a lot of Dickinson between the ages of 8 and ten. I think she was a formative influence on my free verse.Davehttp://www.vianegativa.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-64346975369472825062011-08-10T20:00:41.144-04:002011-08-10T20:00:41.144-04:00Dale,
Thanks for interrupting the Great Prose Bur...Dale,<br /><br />Thanks for interrupting the Great Prose Burnish: I was growing a little tired of it!<br /><br />I think that business about Dr. Seuss is very interesting. I'd never thought about the omnipresence of Seuss and how that's almost the only rhyming verse-on-the-page many young men and women have ever encountered. And song lyrics, of course: and a good many of those need the marlyhttp://www.marlyyoumans.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-85003421005614627912011-08-10T19:29:31.287-04:002011-08-10T19:29:31.287-04:00Wonderful discussion. "What you're steepe...Wonderful discussion. "What you're steeped in" is always what you write in response to, or reaction against. The poetry the last couple of generations have been steeped in is nursery rhymes and song lyrics -- I don't know how many free verse poets have confessed to me that "when they rhyme, they sound like Dr Seuss." Well, of course they do. When you pick up any form, Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-84336870707708916792011-08-10T11:34:04.818-04:002011-08-10T11:34:04.818-04:00Yes, I'm a let a zillion flowers bloom sort of...Yes, I'm a let a zillion flowers bloom sort of person--let the weeds and wildflowers and garden flowers riot!Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-31603754606628471382011-08-10T10:34:30.184-04:002011-08-10T10:34:30.184-04:00Stimulating fare. As I see it, though I do not usu...Stimulating fare. As I see it, though I do not usually choose to write in set forms, it is exhilarating to try them occasionally. People are always moaning that they need a prompt or something to spur their writing; forms are a ready made prompt. If one could try to write a sonnet of a given sort or, more likely, a more involved, challenging form, one of those French or Italian ones that gives meRobbi N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04881145195435485238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-77416893862424055242011-08-09T14:12:03.984-04:002011-08-09T14:12:03.984-04:00Hannah,
Thanks--always glad to hear that you like...Hannah,<br /><br />Thanks--always glad to hear that you like such a thing since you have thought about it so much yourself.<br /><br />Paul,<br /><br />I would say that a number of threads in the poetry scene are indeed deliberately made to be meaningless to many (in some cases, to any outside the "club" of those interested in certain l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e poets or flarf and so on) or at Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-52120174539827461072011-08-09T13:28:45.853-04:002011-08-09T13:28:45.853-04:00Interesting.
If poetry had NO discernible form but...Interesting.<br />If poetry had NO discernible form but was just a stream of thought, written out as ideas hit, it would still conform to something learned and appreciated or be meaningless to many.<br />The tighter the form, the more shape a poem has, I believe.<br />I write poetry of the 'stream of thought' variety and simply rely upon the echoes of form that I have heard and read in myPaul Digbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-38739745751260669412011-08-09T12:22:24.148-04:002011-08-09T12:22:24.148-04:00Wonderful thoughts on how we write and what poetic...Wonderful thoughts on how we write and what poetic form communicates.Hannah Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792203070774504501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-21655878670482427132011-08-09T11:42:10.841-04:002011-08-09T11:42:10.841-04:00Definitely! Unless you were a courtier... Then you...Definitely! Unless you were a courtier... Then you might be expected to write a few poems. (Especially if you were hung--night-before-execution poems being a genre of the time.)Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539948.post-75274214253341247322011-08-09T10:46:53.588-04:002011-08-09T10:46:53.588-04:00Marly, thanks for the response.
For me, it's ...Marly, thanks for the response. <br /><em>For me, it's not whether a particular kind of poetry is "right" or "wrong." I don't even find that those choices are in the realm of "right" and "wrong."</em><br />Couldn't agree more! Clearly, what one person experiences as confining and tending toward superficial expression will lead to quite the Davehttp://www.vianegativa.usnoreply@blogger.com